Airbus pushes 10-abreast A350 beyond leisure/charter markets

Having told Runway Girl Network in 2015 that it is working to make the 10-abreast A350 XWB more comfortable, Airbus now confirms it has advanced its efforts to decrease the discomfort of the high-density configuration on its now flagship twinjet.

The news was delivered by new chief commercial officer Christian Scherer last week during the company’s Innovation Days press event at its French headquarters outside Toulouse.

“Now, yes, the A350-1000 is the largest model we can offer,” Scherer said in response to a question regarding the demise of the A380. “It is a model that offers absolutely unparalleled economics and productivity to our customers. I don’t know if, on this visit, you all will get a chance to look at the cabin mockup that we have on this airplane. With an enhanced cabin you can very comfortably go to 10-abreast seating in economy class on this airplane for long-range flying, and therefore offer — I use the adjective again, unmatched — capabilities to our airline customers.”

For passengers, it is hard to see this development as any sort of positive. The A350’s cabin is narrower than the Boeing 777, and in previous years, Airbus cited 16.4” as the standard seat width for 10-abreast seating on the A350.

So far, 10-abreast A350 operators are entirely in the leisure/charter market: French hybrid-LCCs Air Caraïbes and Frenchbee, for example. Essentially, these operators are the kind of airline that is or would be already operating ultra-narrow nine-abreast seats on the A300/A310/A330/A340 fuselage. And that has certainly been the line Airbus has traditionally taken: airlines don’t need to make the A350 seats as narrow as the Boeing 777’s, and 10-abreast will remain very much the exception.

Indeed, in 2015, Airbus executive VP, strategy and marketing Dr. Kiran Rao admitted that while airlines can get away with offering a seat width of 17″ or less on longhaul flights of 12 to 14 hours, and “people will put up with it”, the configuration is far from ideal and “it’s simply not comfortable”.

It was thus with much surprise that Runway Girl Network and some 130 journalists heard Scherer refer to a new cabin mockup, and suggest that a 10-abreast A350 layout would be comfortable – a marked change of approach and messaging for the airframer as it seeks to compete at the upper end of the capacity spectrum in the future absence of the A380.

With the trend of slimming the sidewalls, shrinking the armrests and re-measuring the seat pan, the airframer is eyeing seat width of 17” for the 10-abreast A350. This compares to the A350’s standard 9-abreast layout with 18” wide seats.

Moving beyond the comfortable 9-abreast economy cabin on the A350 marks a substantial shift in Airbus’ marketing. Image: Airbus

Journalists did not get a chance to look at the cabin mockup, and Airbus clammed up about the entire thing. When RGN requested a follow-up interview and further information during and after the Innovation Days, Airbus initially promised an interview but later decided to decline to comment, although executives knew what this journalist was talking about when asking questions about the new approach.

RGN understands that the work to present this potential densification is already underway.

Air Caraibes is one of the few carriers to use 10-abreast seats in economy. Image: Airbus

One imagines that what would be some of the narrowest seats ever to be installed on a commercial airliner would indeed offer “unparalleled economics”, to quote Scherer. But to say this could be carried out “very comfortably” warrants further clarification from Airbus.

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Previous densification of otherwise comfortable aircraft have not proven successful for the airframer. In 2015, Airbus attempted to drum up support for an 11-abreast row densification exercise on the Airbus A380 that ended up with wobbly ultra-thin armrests, window seats where passengers weren’t able to put their feet on the floor, and which was roundly panned by observers, passengers and ever-hopeful lessors on first sight.

Indeed, it could be argued that this effort poisoned the well for further densification efforts on the A380, including the airframer’s “cabin enablers” and A380plus projects, hastening the eventual demise of the superjumbo.

Turning the A380 brand from “unbeatable passenger experience” to ‘just as awful or even worse as everything else’ was not a winner then, and it does not sound like a winner to do so with the A350.

Airbus’ A380 densification adventure did not end well. Image: John Walton

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4 Comments

  1. Tim Chapman

    Ukrainian airlines uses old 767 Boeing planes with a 2-4-2 seating. Talk about uncomfortable. I’d be interested to what width this corresponds to.

  2. Don

    17 inch seats at 10 across and you will never pass the evacuation test. Airbus’ problem is that because it just is not as fuel efficient as hoped/promised, and they can’t sell the plane anymore (unless they agree to buying back A380s in the deal). So they are trying the same thing that failed on the A380. Both the A350 and A380 were designed to give passenger comfort, but airlines have found out that if you add 50 dollars to the ticket price and make it more comfortable, no one buys your tickets. So Boeing wins by designing for uncomfortable, but somwhat bearable 17 inch seats.

  3. Phil

    Re Don above.Ain’t that exactly the truth! Boeing knows as well as anybody what makes a comfortable economy seat.Some of the very early 747’s had X9 at 18.5″ and the 777 was designed with an 18.5″ seat directly in mind.The ‘x’ factor on y seating in the A380 is again 18.5″.The 787 was launched with 18.5″ seating.So a very obvious pattern indeed….
    As is the new pattern for Boeing.17.3″ on 787’a and 777x’s. As is the case on the existing MAX of course.So a clear fleet policy.Perhaps not by initial design but it’s consistent and consumers are v used to the 17.3″ seat on 747’s,757’s and 767’s.It may not be great ( it isn’t) but it’s acceptable.
    But my God it does wonders for the aircrafts economics!
    Airbus? Well they went for 18″..It’s a great compromise seat and works with no penalty on the 320 and 330.But gets them into trouble above this.
    Note I have ‘done’ their LCC economy on a 330 (x9). For package/ LCC it’s fine ( just) for LCC but can’t see it being accepted as a full fair economy seat.

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