Why daytime to Europe is a great option for US coach flyers

Fawn over your multi-course meals, IFE content selection or even the breadth of the duty free goods on offer. For me, getting across an ocean in comfort is nearly all about being able to hit the ground running when I finally get there. And that means getting good sleep more than any other factor. Fully flat seats help on that front – put me in a window seat and wake me up 6-8 hours later – but they are not always available and only very rarely within my budget. But there is another way to get from the US to Europe and still have gas in the tank on arrival. They are few and far between, but I LOVE the daytime flights on some trunk routes.

Historically this has meant flying from major east coast markets such as New York, Boston, Toronto or Washington DC to London. I’ve taken the flight from New York a few times, and every time I’ve been better rested and ready to go on deplaning, despite having flown in economy class. And even if the arrival time means nabbing only five or six hours of sleep at your hotel before doing whatever is next on your itinerary, that’s five or six hours in a real bed and a quiet room. Even the most comfortable bed in the sky is not the same as a real bed on the ground.

With fuel prices somewhat lower this summer and demand remaining strong there are more options than even now for a traveler looking to make the trip without sleeping on a plane. Aer Lingus has a summer seasonal flight operating during the day from New York JFK to Dublin. Icelandair has a similar seasonal flight to its hub in Reykjavik.

Reykjavik is a hub for Icelandair. Image: Seth Miller

The financial justification of such flights, particularly for airlines that depend heavily on connecting flow to fill planes, is challenging. Most departures to London are scheduled before 9:30am, leaving little time for inbound connections to the US hub airports. And the arrival time in London leaves few onward connection options. Also, London is about as far as the flight can go before the timing becomes untenable. But Iceland and Ireland are closer to the east coast, leading to more connection options and more efficient operations in general.

The Aer Lingus flight departs JFK at noon, having arrived earlier that morning from Dublin. There are no connection opportunities when the flight lands near midnight, but there are good connection options on the US side of the flight in both directions, particularly with partner JetBlue feeding JFK.

The Icelandair flight departs New York at 2pm and arrives in Iceland near midnight. There are decent connection options for the westbound flight from early departures in Continental Europe and, similar to Aer Lingus, great feed options on the US side with partner airlines.

Icelandair also has a few onward late night services to Europe, pushing some passengers through on what would be my least favorite flight option ever, approximately three hours of a redeye. That is the antithesis of the value the daytime flights otherwise offer but it helps the company fill the planes that ensure I can get my flights at the good times.

The counter argument to these flights is that they “waste” a travel day, with the passenger flying during daylight hours rather than while sleeping. While true, it ignores the value proposition of getting to the destination and sleeping, “saving” the following day in many scenarios. The number of people who are truly functional after just a few hours’ sleep – or none at all – on an airplane is low. I’ve been doing it for years and consider myself good at it. But it still sucks. Moreover, the ability to be productive on the daytime flights continues to improve.

Aer Lingus and Icelandair allow for more options with connections. Image: Aer Lingus

Aer Lingus and Icelandair offer inflight connectivity, allowing passengers to get some work done before landing. Image: Aer Lingus

Both Aer Lingus (Panasonic Avionics) and Icelandair (Global Eagle) offer wifi connectivity on their flights across the Atlantic. So does United Airlines (Panasonic), one of the operators into London with daytime flights.

telefonix 300Air Canada and British Airways will each offer connectivity in the relatively near future via Gogo’s 2Ku solution.

Having connectivity does not necessarily ensure full productivity for all travelers, but it moves the needle significantly for many, particularly when coupled with being well rested the following morning.

Ultimately these daytime eastbound TATL flights, while limited, present an opportunity for a very different passenger experience, one which can increase productivity over the traditional overnight redeye, especially for a coach customer.

(n.b. – The North Atlantic is not the only market to support such trips. Travel between Miami and Brazil has similar options, though those are being cut back as the Brazilian economy struggles. And Alaska Airlines recently announced service between Portland and Orlando as daytime both ways. Not quite as long a trip but still somewhat surprising to not have that as a redeye).

Icelandair provides inflight connectivity to passengers via

Icelandair offers diversions such as IFEC whether flying during the day or overnight. Image: Icelandair

9 Comments

  1. Matt R

    Used to love the daytime UA IAD-LHR route until they swapped the 767 for a 757. Little too long a flight for narrowbody IMO.

  2. I’ve only done the daytime flight once, last December on IAD-LHR. It was great! We had to get up early to make the morning departure time from IAD, but we landed in London and were able to have dinner there and get a normal night of sleep in a hotel before continuing on to CPH the next day. I don’t understand the wasted day argument; if I land exhausted because I’ve flown overnight (I rarely sleep that well on a plane, even in a lie flat seat), and don’t feel up to doing much after I land, I’ve still “wasted” a day. I’d almost rather fly during the day and sleep at night, which helps adjust me to the local time more quickly.

    And unlike Matt R. above, I have no issue with the 757 on a flight of that length. 🙂

  3. Jay

    Used to live in Las Vegas. Really enjoyed red eye to IAD, then daytime to London. I was exhausted at bedtime after arrival, which was perfect. Got a good night of sleep and no jet lag.

    • Seth Miller

      While I will dispute the idea that anyone could “really enjoy” a LAS-IAD redeye I certainly understand what you’re getting at. 😉

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